PermaLink Domino can still surprise me04/25/2013 12:10 AM
Yeah, I know that XPages is where it's at, but it still surprises me that...

OK, I know that XPages is supposed to be where it's at.

It's hard to have missed this message for the last three years or so.

Y'know what? It's still possible to do an astonishing lot of work in fewer lines of code in Domino -- whether @language or Lotuscript or a combination of those and passthru HTML and stuff buried in the headers and some tasty server-side agents and some Ajax...

Well, you can still do a lot with Domino.

If what you need to do is take data from HERE, and do a little with it, and then publish it THERE, well, Domino is still damn near everything you could ever want.

Particularly in 2013, where, too often, organizations have decided it's acceptable that to do the bolded stuff above "requires" five or six separate technologies from five or six separate sources, because "open source is always good." But they still wanna hire, and underpay, one human to do all of it.

Spacemoose meets Barney, circa 1997

Well, eat my ass, Barney. Open source is good for a lot of things, but it's also a good way to waste a lot of time and make work for a lot of people with incredibly narrow skills. And after a while, it tastes like tofu: it takes on the flavor of whatever butt-flavored bias its promoter seems to have at the time.

Jeez, I love Domino.

And after twenty years, yeah, that surprises me a little.

It's a good surprise.

PS: Here is some useful background on the cartoon above

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2. Turtle07/23/2013 01:47:33 AM

Can I use that phrase, "bozo explosion" on my resume?

3. Giulio Campobassi04/25/2013 06:34:37 AM

Awesome post. There's a rant in this reply, but there is a point at the end. So, skip to last line, or read just read on.

I worked on a contract a couple of years ago at an Australian Fed Gov department. They brought in Accenture, (aka Acupuncture because they're alot of pricks claiming to solve your problems), to replace a whole bunch of mainframe systems. The tax payer spent about $120million on text book project failure and incompetence. To be fair the management teams in the department were not too bright either. (Think of a bozo explosion and tick-box managers). Accenture had armies of wet-nosed, cheap suits and people with a preference for spicy foods, running around using Oracle suites of this or that and had to run it all on Oracle Enterprise Service Bus. Yep. Web services, or depending how you look at it, the "Accenture job creation scheme".

In the end, they only accomplished barely 50% of the expected deliverable. Suffice to say things are on hold. During that time, the senior IT management (arrogantly) thought they could replace the Domino systems built and perfected over 12 years by dozens of competent Notes developers. These systems sliced and diced everything and are some of the most complex systems in the country. This includes their integration with mainframe systems. The Oracle technology had all sorts of integration problems due because the mainframe systems were quite old, (20 years). Ironically they had to look at getting Notes to be the "go-between" technology to get stuff on the service bus. The place became a "common-sense free zone". That's when I left.

Despite a small cackle of CIO's who trotted through the place using this department to preen their resumes, they had absolutely no clue how much Domino just glued the place together. One of the CIO's was an ex-IBM'er BTW. I was dismayed at that person's ignorance of Notes and the lack of technical evangelising and vision they possessed. Even Accenture, eager to screw the tax payer for every cent, baulked at replacing just a handful of Notes systems that had heavy MS-Word integration and workflow, because the Oracle suite they were spinning had no capability for document production for reasonable price.

So, here are systems that are over 10 years old, dealing with thousands of public and inter-government customers still chugging away doing its job.

The lesson being that Notes will do its job so well, that you don't know how good it is until you try and turn it off.

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